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Knight and Bishops, dancing around dots

(Published on 18. August 2024, 18:10 by bboom)

This puzzle is part of a series I'm making, exploring the odd anti-knight / even anti-bishop mechanic. Other puzzles in the series can be found here:

  1. First Practice (easy puzzle to try out the anti-bishop/anti-knight rule)
  2. Deranged scribbles or modern art?
  3. Knight and Bishops, dancing around dots
  4. Anti-Knight and Anti-Bishop Killer
  5. Bishops eat their sandwiches at 5:29
  6. Minimalist art or more deranged scribbles?
  7. Directionless Knights and Bishops
  8. Scribbled art in deranged colors

Puzzle rules:

  • Normal sudoku rules apply.
  • Odd anti-knight: Cells separated by a knight’s move in chess cannot have the same odd digit.
  • Even anti-bishop: Cells separated by a bishop’s move in chess cannot have the same even digit.
  • Kropki dots: Cells joined by a black dot must have a ratio of 1:2. All dots are given.
  • Renban lines: Every line contains a set of consecutive digits in any order, without repeats.
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Solution code: Row 8 (9 digits, no spaces)

Last changed on on 4. October 2024, 10:09

Solved by keenbowl, Gilliatt, harwiltz, SKORP17, GrumpyMan, japanoise_breakfast, jadezki, forsen, paranoid, Isa, Piff, Unknown, jseng, buzzle24, DanishDynamite, Nagesh, chillid028, JayBird, ZornsLemon, ... Decapod, Koba, LordBidoof, karen_birgitta, MissMaraJoy, atomvic, annnz, Kabuki73, wang, Gullie, Chishiri, Partario, TaeChi, jerbear29, LeaVulpina, owler, itsid, Blake Saligia, jalebc, PippoForte
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Comments

on 4. October 2024, 10:09 by bboom
Updated puzzle list

on 1. October 2024, 12:15 by itsid
i found that to be hard (for me at least) the break in was quite difficult to get, maybe I was looking at the wrong thing though; anyways: nicely made puzzle, thank you

on 21. September 2024, 17:46 by bboom
Updated puzzle list

on 13. September 2024, 09:47 by bboom
Updated series list

on 7. September 2024, 17:33 by bboom
Added link to new puzzle in the series

Last changed on 27. August 2024, 20:48

on 27. August 2024, 20:45 by wacfwaef
koarla I think this puzzle was a bit harder but honestly just play with black dots, specially with the fact that only you can place 2 or 4 between 2 black dots that see each other (either by sudoku or by anti-bishop). The renbans are then to let you know which case it is.

I agree that it is more frustrating while you dont see that tip (along with box 1 restrictions) but after I hope it plays more easily
Hope this tip help with starting the puzzle.

on 27. August 2024, 09:55 by bboom
Updated series-list

on 22. August 2024, 19:33 by bboom
Thanks for the input koarla! I can definitely see that difference, and how a lack of a clear path can shift a puzzle from "challenging" to "frustrating" real quickly.

on 22. August 2024, 18:03 by koarla
Hey bboom, since you asked for a comparison between this puzzle and the previous one:

I think what made "deranged scribbles" more enjoyable is that the overall strategy seemed pretty clear (SPOILERS AHEAD) - first use the Palindrome lines to figure out even/odd, then use letters/colors to figure out which digits need to be the same by Sudoku and the two "anti"-rules, then use German whispers and region sums to figure out which letter/color is which digit.

I found it quite rewarding to have this clear path to follow, whereas in this puzzle it was less clear (at least to me) what I needed to be doing and where I needed to be looking, so I resorted to testing hypotheses quite a lot.

on 20. August 2024, 10:12 by bboom
Hey puzzlers,

I've noticed that the rating for this puzzle is a fair bit lower than my previous one ("Deranged scribbles or modern art?"). I'm pretty new to setting these puzzles, so I would love to hear what makes this one less fun/interesting than the previous one.

If you disliked this one, or liked it less, please feel free to comment about what made it less fun for you. I definitely won't take it personally, for me it is an opportunity to learn and make the next ones better!

on 18. August 2024, 18:42 by keenbowl
Very nice puzzle, thanks for setting&sharing.

Didn't even need the "all dots are given" rule for kropki dots.

Difficulty:3
Rating:87 %
Solved:58 times
Observed:0 times
ID:000JD0

Variant combination Online solving tool Chess

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