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Copycat Confusion

(Eingestellt am 19. August 2024, 18:03 Uhr von Phistomefel)

Dieses Sudoku nimmt die Regeln meines Rätsels Copycat, geht dabei aber ein bisschen weiter...
Hier die genauen Regeln dieses Rätsels:
  1. Es gelten normale Sudoku-Regeln.
  2. Teile die vier Linien im Gitter in zwei Paare auf. Die Linien in einem Paar sind Copycats voneinander, d.h. sie haben die gleiche Zusammenstellung von Ziffern. Hat z.B. eine Linie zwei 3en, fünf 4en und eine 9, so hat auch die andere zwei 3en, fünf 4en und eine 9. Die Reihenfolge der Ziffern ist nicht notwendigerweise die gleiche.
  3. Die zwei Linien im Gitter mit einem Kreis an einem Ende sind ein Average Arrow und ein Thermometer. Die zwei Linien ohne einen Kreis sind eine Region Sum Line und eine German Whispers Line. Der Löser muss herausfinden, für welche Linie welche Regel gilt.
    • Average Arrow: Die Ziffer im Kreis ist der Durchschnitt (exakt, nicht gerundet) aller Ziffern auf der Linie.
    • Thermometer: Die Ziffern müssen entlang des Thermometers ansteigen. Die kleinste Ziffer liegt dabei auf dem grauen Kreis an einem Ende der Linie.
    • Region Sum Line: Die Linie ist durch die Grenzen der 3x3-Boxen in mehrere Segmente unterteilt. Jedes Segment summiert sich zur gleichen Zahl auf.
    • German Whisper: Zwei benachbarte Ziffern auf der Linie haben eine Differenz von 5 oder mehr.
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Zuletzt geändert am 9. Dezember 2024, 12:05 Uhr

am 9. Dezember 2024, 12:01 Uhr von TheNineElements
Very creative puzzle, and also very difficult for me (I rated 5/5 difficulty).

The break in was one of the hardest I've ever completed, but it was smooth sailing once I could assign each line its corresponding type and pair.

I thought that the logic for disambiguating the copycat pairs was very difficult and was interesting in how it relied on different cases of line-type assignments and cell arrangement geometry. The reason I found it so difficult is because I struggled to keep track of which lines could be copycats, given certain assignments of line types. By the time I figured out the copycat pairing, I had also deduced the required line types for both pairs, but I still wasn't able to assign the pairing to either of the two groups I determined.

Once I was able to assign one line type onto an unknown line, I was then able to use the determined group arrangements/line pairings to instantly place all other lines - but getting to that point was TOUGH. The break in was without a doubt a 5/5 difficulty for me. There is a chance that I missed some logic or an idea earlier on in the solve that would have made disambiguating the lines easier, but either way this was very hard for me.

Once they were assigned/placed, the remaining puzzle solve patb was more like 3/5 difficulty.

I am not sure how you were able to construct this puzzle, or even come up with this idea and somehow exexute it - but the fact that you did is extremely impressive. It is shocking that you were able to find an arrangement that 1) could allow each line type and pairing to be logically discovered, and 2) was still an interesting solve path after knowing the line types and their placements. Even now having solved this and gaining an understanding of how it works logically, and having had time to think about the ruleset, I would still have no idea on how to go about constructing this sort of puzzle, given such a crazy/complicated set of geometries and rules interacting with each other in many different ways simultaneously.

Even though the rules were a bit complex, the whole puzzle was fairly minimalist and it felt like I used every single cell of every given clue multiple times in the solve. The arrangement seems just so extremely intricate, that if any line was changed at all, the whole puzzle wouldn't be possible to solve. I am just amazed that you were able to balance all of these rules and ideas simultaneously.

Excellent setting, and very interesting puzzle & ruleset. From a setting point of view, this is one of the most impressive puzzles I've seen and solved.

am 21. August 2024, 12:56 Uhr von GeorgeTheToad2
Excellent construction. Very hard to determine which pairs are connected but it flowed very smoothly once the lines had been paired up. Thank you.

am 20. August 2024, 18:11 Uhr von Franjo
Not as hard as expected - 3 stars from me. The break-in was lovely. The trickiest part (for me) came later when I had to choose the right one from three options… Thank you so much for sharing another masterpiece.

am 20. August 2024, 08:22 Uhr von applesauce
beautiful break-in! thanks for another fantastic puzzle!

am 19. August 2024, 20:13 Uhr von anyeyeball
Very nice puzzle. Loved the Copycat lines.

am 19. August 2024, 19:04 Uhr von antiknight
Amazing idea and execution! The Copycat constraint produces new logic.

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