Wrogn in the Fog'n
(Eingestellt am 24. Juli 2024, 02:30 Uhr von chrisjnap)
Normal sudoku rules apply.
Normal fog of war rules apply.
There are exactly 3 instances of each constraint...exactly 2 of which are wrogn.
Standard rules apply for each constraint unless, of course, they are partially or utterly...wrogn.
*A circle with multiple stems counts as one arrow clue. White and black kropki dots, even and odd, and minimum and maximum are all separate clues from each other. If a clue is broken even in just once instance, it is wrogn.*
Lösungscode: Enter row 5
Kommentare
am 3. Oktober 2024, 16:56 Uhr von OGRussHood
I'm always on cloud nine whenever I find a wrogn puzzle. This one definitely did not disappoint.
am 31. Juli 2024, 00:48 Uhr von ostio456
I understood the rules and really enjoyed the puzzle!
am 25. Juli 2024, 15:02 Uhr von SudokuFan
Am I supposed to guess which clue types are used in this puzzle? For example, it might look obvious that the clues outside the grid are little killers, but they might as easily be look-and-say little killers. Or are the arrows sum arrows, or they are average arrows, or they are product arrows?
am 25. Juli 2024, 01:49 Uhr von gdc
Thanks for the rules update. Very enjoyable puzzle with some fresh bits of logic.
am 24. Juli 2024, 18:29 Uhr von jwsinclair
This is a really nice puzzle. If the author wants to clarify some of the rules, great, but it was all clear enough to me. And I disagree with the comment below saying '"wrogn" usually means "as wrong as possible"'. I think that to the extent there's a standard for "wrogn" rules, it's on display here, where a clue is wrogn if it's not filled 100% correctly.
am 24. Juli 2024, 17:45 Uhr von chrisjnap
Added a rule to hopefully clear up some of the confusion.
am 24. Juli 2024, 15:59 Uhr von Rockon101000
Are all of the arrow clues incorrect, or am I missing something obvious?
am 24. Juli 2024, 14:18 Uhr von sanabas
This really needs to specify that the arrow on r1c789 and the arrow on r123c9 don't count as two instances of arrows. And that with multiple arrows emerging from one circle, some of those arrows can actually be correct clues, as long as the arrows as a group aren't all correct.
I can see 3 arrows at the start, so I assume that those are the 3 instances of arrows. And that the other lines emerging from circles and heading into the fog are instances of some other rule, e.g. between lines.
Which means there are two different options at the start.
Apart from that, it was fun, quick & easy.
am 24. Juli 2024, 13:45 Uhr von sujoyku
Thank you for this cool puzzle, chrisjnap! I am not too familiar with wrogn puzzles but found it quite approachable. The only struggle I had was constantly miscounting or forgetting about clue types I had already revealed and figured out. Anyhow, the solve has been great fun. Thank you for setting and sharing!
am 24. Juli 2024, 11:50 Uhr von fractalminding
You're right that long descriptions of rules often put people off. For the most part, this happens when the rules are complicated and confusing. But in this sudoku, the rules are simple, but require a detailed description. I'm doing sudoku with a small number of constraint types to get more people involved to the solving. And it works!
am 24. Juli 2024, 05:48 Uhr von chrisjnap
@gdc I have not heard that "wrogn" usually means "as wrong as possible." As for the rules, puzzles I publish with longer rulesets don't get solved nearly as much so I was trying to keep it as concise as possible. I thought by including the word "partially" in that last sentence I could allude that "wrogn" clues in this puzzle just need to be broken in one instance.
am 24. Juli 2024, 05:27 Uhr von gdc
"wrogn" usually means "as wrong as possible" but given the (very vague) wording of the rules am I right to assume that this is not the case here?
- does a "wrogn" thermo need to go backwards or just be broken in one instance.
- does a "wrogn" quad need to contain none of the digits or just miss out one?
am 24. Juli 2024, 04:31 Uhr von rameshsrivats
Cool puzzle. Great fun.
