Japanese Cave
(Eingestellt am 29. August 2022, 05:29 Uhr von KNT)
Clues outside the grid indicate the sums of connected groups of numbers in the respective row or column, in order, where empty cells serve as delimeters between groups. A question mark can be any number from 0 to 9, but no clue may have a leading zero. A pound sign can be any number. An asterisk indicates obscured information; in place of an asterisk may be zero, one, or multiple groups of numbers.
A 1-5 example is provided:
Lösungscode: Row 10, Column 4, with 'X' in place of empty cells.
Kommentare
am 25. April 2024, 20:42 Uhr von The Book Wyrm
Very nice puzzle. Not too difficult once you get started, and a lot of fun deductions in here.
Just have to make sure to read the rules properly.
am 11. Dezember 2023, 14:12 Uhr von StephenR
What a corker, thanks. On several occasions I was stumped and struggling to see how I could progress, but something always showed itself eventually.
am 8. April 2023, 18:35 Uhr von Piatato
Lovely puzzle! The ending was quite thrilling due to the fact that I had made a very silly mistake in the very beginning, that luckily turned out to be easily fixable. :D
am 26. Dezember 2022, 01:52 Uhr von ONeill
Incredibly smooth solve and beautiful logic throughout. Thanks!
am 12. Dezember 2022, 17:02 Uhr von peacherwu2
Unexpected and joyful structure deductions. Never seen anything like this!
am 18. Oktober 2022, 00:26 Uhr von Christounet
Loved it ! Having solved some of your lastest harder puzzles, this one felt quite easier. The final disambiguation of the "almost deadly" pattern was very naughty, and it came as a very fun endpoint !
am 2. Oktober 2022, 04:24 Uhr von kjholt
I'm assuming ?* denotes that the Japanese sum clue corresponds to exactly one digit in the grid? Is that a correct reading of the rule? The usage of "clue" here confused me but that might just be my inexperience.
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Hi @kjholt, that is not a correct interpretation of "?*". Apologies for the lack of rigor in the definition, but it is essentially saying that the clue could have either a single or double digit total. If it was given to be just a single digit total "?" would be written, and for double digit, "??".
Here's a quick image illustration I made with sums for a row: https://imgur.com/a/GG0LLA5 (obviously not valid, as no circle clue can be empty, but I think you can get the point here)
Hope this helps :)
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Oh that makes sense! Thank you for your prompt reply; I just got to a spot in the break-in where it was clear I was incorrect so I came back here :) --kjholt
am 29. September 2022, 08:33 Uhr von Phistomefel
A superb puzzle. Thank you so much, KNT!
am 18. September 2022, 08:50 Uhr von AnnaTh
Absolutely amazing!
am 12. September 2022, 04:59 Uhr von KNT
Changed rules to be more clear/concise for future solvers
am 31. August 2022, 14:34 Uhr von tuace
Very nice solving path :)
am 29. August 2022, 23:29 Uhr von marcmees
Thanks for this puzzle. the wording confused at first but I finally got the ?, ... and * where they were needed. 5*
am 29. August 2022, 23:20 Uhr von RJBlarmo
Really cool hybrid idea and a very fun solve!
am 29. August 2022, 22:00 Uhr von Agent
Absolutely brutal and amazing puzzle! Solving this on my phone was a scary experience, but well worth the trouble.
am 29. August 2022, 19:11 Uhr von Dandelo
And I'd recommend first to solve the example, it's also a very good puzzle and helps a lot to get familiar with the rules.
am 29. August 2022, 18:55 Uhr von KNT
Edited a line of the rules as per polar and Dandelo's suggestion
am 29. August 2022, 18:52 Uhr von Dandelo
But I agree with polar that the rules (leftmost/rightmost etc.) are not correct. I've read it as intended, and the example also gives a hint, but the actual text allows to switch the inner groups, IMO.
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both of you make a good point. that section just serves to confuse, so i'll omit it
am 29. August 2022, 18:43 Uhr von Dandelo
Aargh, I still had the old solution code description in a tab...
Great puzzle.
am 29. August 2022, 18:00 Uhr von polar
Felt totally spoilt solving a KNT japanese sums puzzle (my personal fave type)! Beautiful construction & a joy to solve. Hope to see more of them! Thanks :)
am 29. August 2022, 17:08 Uhr von KNT
Edited solution code
am 29. August 2022, 14:08 Uhr von Vebby
Fabulous! A treat to solve. Thanks KNT! :)
am 29. August 2022, 10:15 Uhr von Niverio
Very enjoyable!
am 29. August 2022, 09:53 Uhr von Jesper
A wonderful puzzle! So much fun.
am 29. August 2022, 05:35 Uhr von the_cogito
Fun puzzle! Tricky start, but flowed really nicely after that!
