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Family Circus Act

(Published on 20. February 2025, 09:00 by Will Power)

Normal Sudoku rules apply. RENBAN- Numbers on purple lines are each a set of non-repeating, consecutive numbers, in any order. KILLER(+) CONSECUTIVE REGIONS- Numbers in regions sum to the number in the top left corner of the region, AND are a consecutive set of numbers, in order, but THERE MAY BE REPEATS in regions, if other rules allow. KROPKI PAIRS- Numbers with a white dot between them are consecutive (to clarify some regions). Numbers with a black dot between them are in a ratio of 2:1. Not all possible dots are shown. Orange lines and red balance points do not affect the puzzle. The mother and child are currently balanced and the father is currently balanced with both the mother and child. If the mother takes a step forward, what will happen? (No mathematics needed) A: The father is lowered, the mother is lowered, and the child is raised. B: The father remains the same, the mother is lowered and the child is raised. C: The father is raised, the mother is raised, and the child is lowered.

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Solution code: If the answer is A, Row 1. If the answer is B, Row 5. If the answer is C, Row 7.

Last changed on on 20. February 2025, 18:41

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Last changed on 26. February 2025, 20:24

on 26. February 2025, 20:24 by KingIsulgard
9:39 had to reread the cage rules. Not sure if I agree with the puzzle solution haha. I need a mythbusters video for this.

on 22. February 2025, 17:24 by dumfries
I liked it. I don’t mind the rule changes, but I also had to come to the comments for the in order part that I must have missed

on 21. February 2025, 07:41 by geronimo92
Totally agree with fallean !

on 20. February 2025, 20:30 by VitP
as for the physics problem, if the mother steps forward, IN THAT INSTANT, her side of her balance goes down, but nothing else changes.
in the NEXT instant, she slides down, loses her balance, and falls off, but not before the child is catapulted into space. then nothing balances the father, so he also falls off, and the whole structure collapses.
yes, we have all seen this many times, on the benny hill show, or even as early as charlie chaplin.
COME ON PEOPLE. let's not be absurd.

Last changed on 20. February 2025, 22:38

on 20. February 2025, 20:20 by VitP
let us be absolutely clear on a couple of points.
1) will power is the ABSOLUTE MASTER of converting DRAWINGS into a viable sudoku. yes, other setters do it sometimes, but will has done hundreds, if not thousands, of these types of puzzles. (and they generally feature stick people)
2) will commonly (50% ?) uses a (+) constraint, where the constraint is MODIFIED from the standard one. one needs to be aware of this, and not skim the rules. so, if you reach a deadly pattern, check the rules ! if you break the puzzle, YOU made a mistake.
3) there is no "nice" way to say this: if you cannot solve the trivial physics problem, you need to go back to high school. this is not rocket science. this is just understanding basic levers, from 2.5 thousand years ago.
4) but why am i writing this? because this is, objectively, a FINE puzzle, and honi soit qui mal y pense.

@VitP Thank you for your kind words. I take the risk of having people challenge the semantics when I use my (+) non-standard rules. I just wasn't as careful this time as I usually am. I'll accept the 'Loss' on this one, and try to do better, next time. Thanks. -Will Power

on 20. February 2025, 19:38 by fallean
Nice puzzle but the "in order" needs to be clearer because in some cages you provide the white dot to force order but in others its not, also the rules seemed to brush by the in order aspect.

Also this is totally personal but I am not a fan of a riddle / geometry problem to be able to solve the solution code, I ended up just guessing it

on 20. February 2025, 18:41 by Will Power
Changed the 30 cage to a 24 cage to clarify the rules.

Last changed on 20. February 2025, 18:43

on 20. February 2025, 18:40 by rlg
Interesting that the 24 cage in box 5 does not show up in the CTC page, but is part of the 30 cage in box 6.

@rlg You caught me mid-change, due to complaints about the rules. -Will Power

on 20. February 2025, 18:08 by fallean
Nice puzzle but the "in order" needs to be clearer because in some cages you provide the white dot to force order but in others its not, also the rules seemed to brush by the in order aspect.

Also this is totally personal but I am not a fan of a riddle / geometry problem to be able to solve the solution code, I ended up just guessing it

Last changed on 20. February 2025, 18:50

on 20. February 2025, 16:18 by xocolatl
I also had two deadly patterns, and also brute forced the solution code until I got one that worked

@xocolatl Thank you for commenting. The deadly patterns can be solved by making sure all cages meet the 'in order, or consecutive, requirement. Peace to you. -Will Power

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Solved:50 times
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