Logic Masters Deutschland e.V.

Outside In

(Published on 27. December 2023, 03:00 by XeonRisq)

    This puzzle came about by observing an image of a grid by Sniglett in the Skunkworks discord server, which has a very different ruleset.
    Sniglett's puzzle can be found here : Equality Cube
    For this one, the edge has been broken and splintered the grid into four quadrants. (Gray cells are to be treated as outside clues)
  • The digits in each row and column must be unique and from 0-9.
  • Scattered in the grid are min/max cells, which each one is identified by a single clue in grey.
  • The number in a gray cell specifies the sum of numbers between itself and the min/max clue in the associated row or column.
  • The sum must consist of at least one cell and could be above/below or left/right of the clue in gray, which must be determined by the solver.
  • If the sum is below or left of the clue, it must be a min cell; if the sum is above or right of the clue, it must be a max cell.
  • Min/max cells can only share a border if they are of a different type. (min/min and max/max are not allowed to border)
  • Arrow - Numbers along an arrow must sum to the number shown in the circled cells.
  • Renban - Digits on the purple line must be consecutive, but in any order and may not repeat.
  • Min cells must be less than all adjacent cells; Max cells must be greater than all adjacent cells.

  • Below is an example, with a possible solution, in the top left quadrant :
  • CtC link - link to solve online

Solution code: Bottom Row followed by Column 1
(excluding numbers in gray ; 16 total digits)

Last changed on on 31. December 2023, 02:00

Solved by zzw, ancarro, PierreTombal, amarins, DadJokes, dumediat, Bellsita, Chilly, isajo4002, Elliott810, Chad
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Comments

Last changed on 30. August 2024, 17:23

on 30. August 2024, 13:00 by Elliott810
Brilliant puzzle! And definitely one of the weirdest puzzles I've ever solved. Thanks:)
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Hey Elliott.. Thanks for tackling this one and glad you liked it. I admit, it is weird but it's got some really strange and fun logic within, definitely one of my favorites. Thanks for the feedback, great to hear from you again!

Last changed on 4. April 2024, 04:17

on 1. April 2024, 16:52 by Chilly
Just catching up on my test solves ...
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You earned every one, claim all the solves you like!! And appreciate ya as always..

Last changed on 9. January 2024, 04:51

on 9. January 2024, 04:40 by dumediat
This puzzle is incredible! Definitely easy to misstep if one isn't careful. It is well worth the time to wrap one's head around the rules, the solve is very, very rewarding. Thanks Xeon!
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Appreciate the kind words/solve dumediat.. I agree about the rules, they are probably more difficult than the deductions within!

Last changed on 9. January 2024, 04:49

on 9. January 2024, 02:58 by DadJokes
It was fun testing this. A real mind bender at times. Nice puzzle!
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Thanks DJ.. and thanks for the time you took to run through a test solve of this to help me confirm the path was smooth enough. I value your opinion and appreciate your feedback.

Last changed on 28. December 2023, 19:23

on 28. December 2023, 18:46 by PierreTombal
I needed over two hours to finish this puzzle but I still rated it a three star difficulty as the main reason for taking so long was that I couldn't get my head around the rules. I'm noticing that they have been revised on some points but what can't be stressed enough is that the grey cells are not part of the grid. Failing to acknowledge that, I emptied the grid several times only to return to the exact same conflict situation every time. Once I truly understood the rules there was a nice and enjoyable flow to the puzzle.
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I've slowly been refining small details in the rules as valid points have been raised. And I agree the deductions in the puzzle aren't very difficult in and of themselves. It's the rules as a whole that take some time to fully ingest. I do appreciate you taking the time to give this oddity a try.

Last changed on 27. December 2023, 21:53

on 27. December 2023, 18:39 by andreatetta
I agree that the rules are a bit confusing. For example "Scattered in the grid are min/max cells, which each one is identified by a single clue in grey." Is this a 1-to-1 correspondence, or is it possible to have numbers in the grey section that do not correspond to any min/max clue?
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The numbers in gray are essentially outside clues (that happen to be on the inside of the grid). If a number in gray exists, it directly correlates to a min/max cell (direction to be determined by the solver)

Last changed on 27. December 2023, 17:46

on 27. December 2023, 16:35 by zzw
Awesome puzzle! Weird rules which were hard to think about, but it led to lots of interesting logic!
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Appreciate the solve and feedback; also the discussion on discord about the rules/difficulty/etc. I do agree that the logic is new, fun but strange, mind-bendy as well..

Last changed on 27. December 2023, 16:08

on 27. December 2023, 09:10 by MonsieurTRISTE
I don’t understand the rule :(
Hoping for a more logical way it is described.
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Which part is confusing?

Difficulty:4
Rating:100 %
Solved:11 times
Observed:6 times
ID:000GBL

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